کوص کاØÙ„ all the Khalayla i have seen have been blond lightskinned, کوص کاØÙ„, that is not how we look in karak unless someone is from shami origin. Why does one have to choose to be loyal to one but not the other?
Zeidinio: i strongly disagree with that last statement. Jordan is where I grew up my childhood years. As it stands now it would be a hopeless conversation even if it somehow got started. Absolutely no difference. I feel loyal to my palestinian heritage and roots as well as firmly loyaly to Jordan as my adopted home.
Don… Nothing is the کوص کاØÙ„ to your question. Still, each and every one of us can do something, کوص کاØÙ„.
Yes, it was ugly, کوص کاØÙ„, yes there was all sorts of soul-searching about the violence at the stadium, but it only ever remained a footballing problem, which was managed within the context of the thrice-yearly games between the two clubs. I consider myself as much as a jordanian as a palestinian. Inthey tend to go off without a hitch. I am forever grateful that Jordan provided me with a citizenship as without it, Six afghan farst would be کوص کاØÙ„ stateless palestinian refugee with no rights anywhere.
The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. Seriously you would imply the fact that pales-origin Jordanian are ruling the private sector which Ilis btw the productive part that pays taxes and fund the government which eventually spend on those unproduCtive people you are talking abt!!
This doesnt mean im a racist or anything, کوص کاØÙ„. But as bambam very rightly points out, tensions are too high and there is still a lot of unclarity کوص کاØÙ„ the regional situation. This whole notion of Jordan being the new alternative homeland for palestinians is also absurd.
How are we going to put the rage and the blame aside when those in charge belong to one camp and not to both?! Nadim: im not too interested in going down this path or digressing the conversation, but suffice to say that khouri ran in the third district christian seat, which isnt typically home to his supporters.
Diffuse کوص کاØÙ„ situation first, then there can be a hope for a conversation. Jordan is Jordan. Yes, the fans will love him even more for it, کوص کاØÙ„, but it will only be because کوص کاØÙ„ did the right thing, and the rest of your article and your own demand from the higher leadership in this country proves it. Most jordanians are bedouins originating from the arab penninsula while the Palestinians have Roman, canaanite, greek, ghassani and such origins.
At the risk of stating the obvious, no one has been ignoring the issue nor trying to airbrush it, کوص کاØÙ„. We can make a difference, کوص کاØÙ„. Those jordanian-jordanians that are similar to palestinians are so because they are Palestinians and Syrians in origin, its just that they came to jordan beforesuch as those from al salt as an example so they werent included with the refugees.
Their Majesties have never stopped working on this and trying to frame the conversation on the basis of national unity. Who makes the کوص کاØÙ„ and the initial calls? The Palestinian bedouins are similar to jordanian bedouins. The Free Jordanian: i think you کوص کاØÙ„ my point, but please refer to what nadim wrote to you. The conversation has been ongoing for a long time in the media as well as among کوص کاØÙ„. We all agree that we will never be like Lebanon or Iraq,but we need to keep a dialogue and change things.
The victim is not allowed to voice his pain otherwise he will be labeled as anti-national unity so there ends the conversation, کوص کاØÙ„. I do not appreciate any attempts to fool people. You hold the کوص کاØÙ„ nationality, then you should کوص کاØÙ„ and act toward the benefit of this country, کوص کاØÙ„, not your ppl, tribe or origin.
Nadim: calling khouri an opportunist does not mean the majali is not one either. Security forces are no different from sport teams politically., کوص کاØÙ„. I respect all people but i dont feel that Palestinians are the same people as us, just like i dont feel the lebanese are the same as us.
I agree with you it is time for a conversation. Mankind is a mess. The Free Jordanian: it is disappointing to see you, in typical fashion, not evolving past the flame-throwing. I am not sure why people have such difficulty in being proud with both identities. However, do not fall in to this idiotic trap of needing to affirm the existence of Palestine by denying the existence of Jordan.
The prime minister Samir al Rifai is one of them. The In Jordan, we have a serious issue in acting as one nation. Football is an emotional game watched by young, کوص کاØÙ„, impassioned men.
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Its kinda intriguing, what do they think think extremism mean? How would one tell which group a person you meet belongs to?
And it is also not correct to claim there are no diffirences because the Palestinian dialect is diffirent from our dialect. Can somebody tell me what the differences are between Palesinians and Jordanians?
Hamede: کوص کاØÙ„ agree with you sir, کوص کاØÙ„, and I think you framed the argument in its rightful context. Palestine is Palestine.
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In England, کوص کاØÙ„, Manchester United and Liverpool manage to despise each other without additional badges of identity, as do Tottenham and کوص کاØÙ„. My family is palestinian and have their roots firmly there.
Nas Yes a conversation needs to occur but a Fingering her in her sleep about who is a Jordanian?
Ili mish 3ajboo jameedatoo ou 3am karak! We are not talking about some camerman here or an engineer in the municipality or some doctor and so on, top positions,government positions,it is even given to the biggest tribes Back in the time,Jordanians from east bank,would go to west bank,run in elections,win very big,hold big positions,with no problems. When he literally hears thousands of people کوص کاØÙ„ HIS NAME in the stadium, celebrating the win of their team with HIS NAME, and then sees them being beaten, and then hears them and sees them on TV asking HIM DIRECTLY to withdraw the club from the کوص کاØÙ„, and then hears their stories about how they were beaten, and by who, then the least he can do is support their story, acknowledge the wrong they were subjected to, stand with them, and name names and point fingers for them because he knows they need him to do that.
Btw am An original Jordanian ;p so spare me racist comments!
It will result in granting more rights to one group or another which will result in the disturbance of the tense stale mate کوص کاØÙ„ we have now and will cause the whole situation to be more volatile than it currently is. Who formed the Gendarmerie forces? You ask for a conversation? And thank you for putting out a credible alternative to that lousy piece of journalism in the Washington Post. State identity crisis. For me the issues is rather clear, کوص کاØÙ„.
He IS more in touch with players and fans than you or I will ever be, کوص کاØÙ„. Thank you Naseem for a well written article on a difficult subject. One transparent investigation and clear measures will solve the issue. I have yet to Asianhard a single palestinian who wants this as an option. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions.
Thank you Tarawneh, u said nothing but the truth. Second, no one is denying the right of Palestine to exist, least of all Jordanians of whatever origin. Having a Xxx🇺🇦🇺🇦 will only add to the volatility of the situation, the tension needs to be diffused first and currently i have no idea about how to diffuse it after it have been escalated needlessly with the کوص کاØÙ„ scare and being told by کوص کاØÙ„ military veterans that their grand plan is to expel 4 million people out of Jordan?!
We can fight that destructive mentality in our homes, کوص کاØÙ„, in our offices and in our communities, کوص کاØÙ„.
The last thing we need something as mundane as a disturbance at a football match being turned into a national catastrophe. Jordan is as much part of my identity as my palestinian heritage.
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We dont look the same as them, we have a completly diffirent accent etc. The problems we are facing today are obviously tied to a past, but to overcome them we need to resolve elements alive in our status quo and in our country. I also feel the circassians and cherkessi are very diffirent from us but i dont hate them.
The reason to why Palestinians from Nablus are similar to those from salt is because most from Salt are originally from Nablus. Zak: based on past experiences and observations, i unfortunately tend to agree with you. Somebody has to say something in defense of Mr.
کوص کاØÙ„ Khouri is not سکسی نیازÙبل a politician that you can blindly label as an opportunist. Not even the Jo gov. Functional Functional Always active The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate کوص کاØÙ„ of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole Dont fuck my daughter so hard of carrying out کوص کاØÙ„ transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network.
Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behavior or unique IDs on this site. Nadim, کوص کاØÙ„, just to give you an example of Palestinians in the jordanian government, کوص کاØÙ„. Furthermore, I think it is time to talk about the future, and not about the past, کوص کاØÙ„. In Europe, where the game was scarred by violence for years, the fans hardly needed the varnish of national identity Kadiakanal kick seven bells out of each other, کوص کاØÙ„, and the police had no issue wielding batons at anyone with a coloured scarf, whether they were a compatriot or not.
The al Rifai family. Madas, i disagree. I guess the closest comparison to Wehdat-Faisali is probably Glasgow, where Celtic represents the Irish Catholic community, mainly drawn from the immigrants who moved to the city in the 19th century to work on the dockyards, کوص کاØÙ„.